SS #100! Book Bash!
It only took us 6 years to get to it, but we’ve hit the 100 episode milestone on the podcast AND we’ve had over a million downloads.
So in today’s commemorative episode we reminisce about the history of Scholé Sisters, our favorite episodes, and the top 5 books mentioned over the course of 100 episodes on issues relevant to classical education and homeschooling.
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Today’s Hosts and Source
Brandy Vencel
saved Scholé Sisters from getting the ax when Sarah Mackenzie had to leave.
Pam Barnhill
has always been known as the “everymom” voice on the podcast, as well as the official opener of cans of worms.
Mystie Winckler
kept Scholé Sisters going for over a year as a monthly email newsletter before we started the podcast.
Abby Wahl
stalked us online and came to our very first retreat meetup because she knew we’d be friends – and she was right. She joined the team just over a year ago.
The sources for this episode are primarily episodes 1-99!
“It’s not a real episode until someone buys a book.”
– Scholé Sisters
The History of Scholé Sisters
Scholé Sisters is the brainchild of Sarah Mackenzie, of Read-Aloud Revival fame. Before Read-Aloud Revival, but after Teaching from Rest, Sarah wanted to gather a group of committed homeschool moms who applied the classical tradition in different ways. She wanted to show how classical homeschooling could look different in different homes and also how moms who homeschooled differently could work together and have helpful, respectful, and fun conversations.
So we started as a group blog with the series “You’re More Classical Than You Think” to show how classical homeschooling has a variety of applications.
Link: “You’re More Classical Than You Think” series
Then Sarah started Read-Aloud Revival, which took off like gang busters and between maintaining that momentum and homeschooling with toddler twins, Sarah had to cut some projects, including Scholé Sisters.
Brandy asked to keep Scholé Sisters as a thing among the remaining 3 of us, and Sarah gave her blessing to that. Mystie then kept the group intact for a year as a monthly newsletter before Brandy realized that it would make a great podcast.
Our first episode, Preventing Burnout Through Levity, came out in January 2016.
And now here we are with episode 100, six years later!
The next summer we did our first retreat, with the primary motivation of having an excuse to all meet together in person. Little did we know we’d also meet a future Scholé Sister, Abby Wahl, at the meetup. We invited her to join us officially in 2020.
Our favorite episodes
Pam’s top podcast pick is episode 46, our Christmas Carol episode, where she and Mystie surprised Brandy by being nitpicky and scrouge-like about Dicken’s attempt to take Christ out of Christmas.
Pam and Mystie ambushed Brandy and we went all off script and off outline for that episode, which might have been what inspired Brandy to name it “What the Dickens?”
Mystie’s favorite recording was with Susan Wise Bauer, Episode 78: Pursuing the Classical Education You Never Had. It was the interview she was most nervous to record. But Susan is so down-to-earth and at ease that the conversation felt very natural as soon as we got going and it was such a great discussion about the self-education project.
Abby’s favorite episodes have all been with Karens, which is great to highlight since Karen is a name made muddy of late. There are some great Karens in the world.
Episode 67 with Karen Glass, Death by Sticker Chart, was inspiring to Abby because of the way Karen is able to express the connections between Charlotte Mason’s philosophy and the classical tradition.
Abby’s next favorite Karen episode was with Karen Harris, #93: Revived by Reading. Her story was so inspiring about pursuing intense reading without getting bogged down and doing it against all odds.
One of Brandy’s favorite episodes was #79 with Ravi Jain, East Meets West
His experience with helping classical educators in China and their perspective on why they want a western, classical education.
Classic Sisters: On Dorothy Sayers & Classical Education
A not-to-miss series: The two-episode set where Mystie, Brandy, and Pam discuss Dorothy Sayers’ important essay, “The Lost Tools of Learning.” In the first episode, “The Sisters on Sayers,” they discuss all the great but oft-ignored things Sayers says in her brief but meaty – and funny! – speech. The second episode in the set, “Gainsaying Sayers” is about Sayers’ appropriation of the Trivium and what is not classical at all about her definitions.
Later, Brandy and Mystie had Renee Shepard on as a guest to discuss a lesser known but just as important essay by Sayers on Latin: “Dorothy Sayers’ Latin Lament.“
The Top Five Episodes by Downloads
5th Most Mentioned Book: Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis
Ten episodes refer to the Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis. Really, the book is simply two essays, and the first is on education. But it’s the kind of essay that seems as fresh and deep on the fiftieth reading as the first.
In the first part of Abolition, Lewis discusses what education truly is and why the modern progressive mindset makes education impossible.
The Abolition of Man
From Amazon: "In the classic The Abolition of Man, C.S. Lewis, the most important Christian writer of the 20th century, sets out to persuade his audience of the importance and relevance of universal values such as courage and honor in contemporary society. Both astonishing and prophetic, The Abolition of Man is one of the most debated of Lewis's extraordinary works. National Review chose it as number seven on their 100 Best Nonfiction Books of the Twentieth Century."
More info →Mentioned in
- Episode #5 – Balancing Work and Wonder (with Ravi Jain)
- Episode #7 – Virtual Scholé Sisters Groups and Technology Tools (with Amber Vanderpol) during the Scholé RDA (aka Scholé Everyday) segment
- Episode #12 – – as part of the topical discussion
- Episode #40 – Moms: Learn and Grow! – on part 1, found at the Mason Jar
- Episode #41 – Living Books Are for Life – as part of Pam’s Scholé Everyday
- Episode #67 – Death by Sticker Chart – as part of Abby’s C.S. Lewis 5×5 category
- Episode #79 – East Meets West – as Ravi Jain shared his Scholé Everyday
- Episode #93 – Revived by Reading – Thinking of Lewis as a children’s author, Karen was surprised at how difficult this small book was (and it is!)
- Episode #97 – – as part of the topical discussion
- Episode #98 – Ordo Amoris – as part of the topical discussion
For every one pupil who needs to be guarded against a weak excess of sensibility there are three who need to be awakened from the slumber of cold vulgarity. The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles but to irrigate deserts. The right defence against false sentiments is to inculcate just sentiments. By starving the sensibility of our pupils we only make them easier prey to the propagandist when he comes. For famished nature will be avenged and a hard heart is no infallible protection against a soft head.
C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
4th Most Mentioned Book: The Liberal Arts Tradition by Kevin Clark and Ravi Jain
Ravi Jain’s and Kevin Clark’s book on classical education, The Liberal Arts Tradition, focuses on philosophy and principles true to the tradition rather than focusing on methods as the distinctives of classical education. Methods can differ, if they are practices in keeping with the priorities and principles of classical education.
We’ve referred to this book sixteen times in the last six years, and we do recommend getting the second edition, even if you own the first edition. It is that much better. It really is worth it.
The Liberal Arts Tradition: A Philosophy of Christian Classical Education (Revised Edition)
The Liberal Arts Tradition: A Philosophy of Christian Classical Education introduces readers to a paradigm for understanding a classical education that transcends the familiar 3-stage pattern of grammar, logic, and rhetoric. Instead, this book describes the liberal arts as a central part of a larger and more robust paradigm of classical education that should consist of piety, gymnastic, music, liberal arts, philosophy, and theology. The Liberal Arts Tradition also recovers the means by which classical educators developed more than just intellectual virtue (by means of the 7 liberal arts) but holistically cultivated the mind, body, will, and affections. This is a must-read for educators who want to take a second big step toward recovering the tradition of classical education.
More info →As mentioned in:
- Episode #2 – What’s Love Got to Do with It?
- Episode #3 – The Wonder-Based Classical Co-op
- Episode #54 – Gainsaying Sayers – in the discussion about what the trivium really is
- Episode #76 – The Wonder Years (Quintilian and the Classical Preschool) by Mystie Winckler during the Scholé Everyday segment
- Episode #77 – Let’s Get Together Yeah Yeah Yeah (communities vs. networks) by Abby Wahl during the Scholé Everyday segment, and during the topical discussion
- Episode #80 – Let’s Get Physical (Gymnastic in a Classical Education)
- Episode #88 – Transitioning Kids to Independent Work – as Brandy Vencel’s Scholé Everyday pick (the science appendix in particular)
Kevin Clark & Ravi Jain, The Liberal Arts Tradition
3rd Most Mentioned Book: The Great Tradition by Richard Gamble
The Great Tradition: Classic Readings on What It Means to Be an Educated Human Being is a collection of excerpts on education from Plato to the twentieth century.
Every season we have at least one episode that uses this book as our source because it is one we can all own, refer to page numbers, and have a multiplicity of sources on one topic. We’ve referred to this book seventeen times over our last 99 episodes.
Reading this book is seeing the Great Conversation unfold before you. In 2021, we had a group of ladies inside Sistership read the whole thing together, discussing it monthly. Their conversations are archived in the Book Club Group inside Sistership – including their Zoom meetups – if you’re interested in reading historic sources on education in company with others.
Nothing Found
As mentioned in:
- Episode #1 – Preventing Burnout through Levity – as Mystie’s Scholé RDA pick
- Episode #8 – Making the Most of Summer with Habits and Virtue
- Episode #9 – Finding the Right Scholé for Your Type
- Episode #18 – The Low-Down on Narration
- Episode #21 – Amusing Ourselves to Leisure – as Mystie’s Scholé Everyday pick
- Episode #26 – Education is an Atmosphere
- Episode #27 – Education is a Discipline
- Episode #28 – Education is a Life
- Episode #29 – Educating for Virtue (I’m Not the Holy Spirit)
- Episode #32 – Paideia is All Greek to Me by Mystie Winckler during the Scholé Everyday segment
- pisode #54 – Gainsaying Sayers
- Episode #76 – The Wonder Years (Quintilian and the Classical Preschool)
- Episode #80 – Let’s Get Physical (Gymnastic in a Classical Education)
- Episode #88 – Transitioning Kids to Independent Work – quoting Quintilian
- Episode #96 – Can Virtue Be Taught? – as the episode’s main source of Aristotle, Augustine, and Quintilian
- Episode #98 – Ordo Amoris – as part of the topical discussion
Do you think it possible that we could find a supply for our daily speeches, when discussing such a variety of matters, unless we were to cultivate our minds by the study of literature? or that our minds could bear being kept so constantly on the stretch if we did not relax them by that same study? But I confess that I am devoted to those studies; let others be ashamed of them if they have buried themselves in books without being able to produce anything out of them for the common advantage.
Cicero, qtd in The Great Tradition
2nd Most Mentioned Book: Norms and Nobility by David Hicks
Although Norms and Nobility is unnecessarily difficult to read (it was Hick’s doctoral thesis) and unnecessarily expensive (often listed on Amazon for $50), it is a classical education essential source. Hicks helps us break out of the methods-focused neoclassical model and think about the root issues of classical education and what truly distinguishes it from modern progressive schooling.
Stay tuned for an opportunity to learn from Norms and Nobility this fall as a Sistership Sophie, either with or without the book!
Nothing Found
As mentioned in
- Episode #10 – Which Comes First? The Principles or the Practical?
- Episode #13 – Learning Styles Are Bunk
- Episode #15 – A Classical Gratitude List
- Episode #19 – Effortlessness & Hard Work
- Episode #27 – Education Is a Discipline
- Episode #29 – Educating for Virtue (I’m Not the Holy Spirit)
- Episode #32 – Paideia Is All Greek to Me
- Episode #33 – Narration Is Knowing
- Episode #36 – Is Scholé for Everyone?
- Episode #42 – Carpe Librum
- Episode #47 – Rightly Dividing
- Episode #48 – Someone Stole My Socrates
- Episode #50 – A Little Less Talk and a Lot More Action
- Episode #54 – Gainsaying Sayers
- Episode #58 – Scholé Is Diffuse
- Episode #59 – Scholé Group Therapy
- Episode #63 – Who’s Your Daddy?
- Episode #66 – Faculty of Friends
- Episode #69 – Socratic Trialogue (with Renee Shepard!)
- Episode #70 – Arguing about Words
- Episode #73 – A Scholé for All Seasons
- Episode #91 – In Loving Memory
[Our goal is] the cultivation of the human spirit: to teach the young to know what is good, to serve it above self, and to recognize that in this knowledge lies that responsibility.
David Hicks, Norms and Nobility
Very Most Mentioned Book: Leisure, the Basis of Culture by Josef Pieper
How fitting that Leisure the Basis of Culture is our top book, because Pieper is the one who introduced the classical world to the idea of scholé and the word itself.
What is real leisure and how to we escape being defined by our paychecks? How do we restore our souls in a world of secularism and tech? By scholé, which is contemplation based in worship, fed by reading, and all returning again to worship.
Leisure: The Basis of Culture
One of the most important philosophy titles published in the twentieth century, Josef Pieper's Leisure, the Basis of Culture is more significant, even more crucial, today than it was when it first appeared more than fifty years ago. This edition also includes his work The Philosophical Act. Leisure is an attitude of the mind and a condition of the soul that fosters a capacity to perceive the reality of the world. Pieper shows that the Greeks and medieval Europeans, understood the great value and importance of leisure. He also points out that religion can be born only in leisure -- a leisure that allows time for the contemplation of the nature of God. Leisure has been, and always will be, the first foundation of any culture. Pieper maintains that our bourgeois world of total labor has vanquished leisure, and issues a startling warning: Unless we regain the art of silence and insight, the ability for non-activity, unless we substitute true leisure for our hectic amusements, we will destroy our culture -- and ourselves.
More info →Mentioned in:
- Episode #4 – We Dare You to Read the Classics
- Episode #5 – Balancing Work and Wonder (with Ravi Jain) – Ravi Jain’s Scholé RDA (aka Scholé Everyday)
- Episode #9 – Finding the Right Scholé for Your Type
- Episode #10 – Which Comes First? The Principles or the Practical? during the Scholé RDA (aka Scholé Everyday) segment
- Episode #16 – Don’t Be The White Witch
- Episode #19: The Intersection of Effortlessness and Hard Work (with Dr. Christopher Perrin!) as Brandy Vencel’s Scholé Everyday pick
- Episode #21 – Amusing Ourselves to Leisure
- Episode #30 – Putting the Merry Back in Christmas
- Episode #85 – More than restful learning – as a definition work on scholé during our topical discussion
The vacancy left by absence of worship is filled by mere killing of time and by boredom, which is directly related to inability to enjoy leisure; for one can only be bored if the spiritual power to be leisurely has been lost.
Josef Pieper, Leisure, the Basis of Culture
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